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Metadata correction proposals – Addressed by Logos
Books Missing Pagination & Other Indexes
Logos 4 Bugs
Title Capitalization Errors
Individual Resources or groups of resources
Suggested Changes to Logos Standards
Errors Dependent on a resource update
Note: when Logos addresses a reported error, it will be moved here.
- running a search on Œhypocrite¹ and found the following: ³Search ALL TEXT in NIV ³APPLICTION² instead of ³Application²
- Please add common abbreviations in parenthesis after publisher names (JPS, PBI...). This simplifies library filtering and collection rules considerably.
Type should be “Lexicon”
Should be tagged as lexicon to appear on Exegetical guide and BWS
- William Barclay’s New Testament Words
- Stewart Custer’s A Treasury of New Testament Synonyms
- Kenneth Wuest:
- Golden Nuggets from the Greek New Testament
- Bypaths to the Greek New Testament
- Treasures from the Greek New Testament
- Untranslatable Riches from the Greek New Testament
- Studies in the Vocabulary of the Greek New Testament
- A Dictionary of Biblical Tradition in English Literature is missing English Headwords.
- There exists in our system a method for inputting second or third language aliases to books. This is terrible, because language aliases are also functional and this input has no method of earmarking which should be the “main” language alias. The “main” language alias has to match the mark-up baked into the resource for the text to display properly and for certain internal tools to work. Thanks to this, I am very cautious about fixing language errors. It’s really a change that requires a re-evaluation of all of the book’s code, and perhaps a full resource update. And multiple language aliases for a single book will rarely, if ever, be implemented (I know we have a few in the legacy resources. I fear to touch them). ~Hayley Price
- The Apologies of Justin Martyr, to which is Appended the Epistle to Diognetus needs Greek added to Language
- The Book of Tobit (1878) and Two Unknown Hebrew Versions of Tobit (1897) – these both have Language:English, but that’s incorrect. The first should be English;Chaldee;Hebrew and the second should be English;Hebrew.
- The Heidelberg Catechism: the German Text, with a Revised Translation and Introduction: German - should have language:German
- Lexicons with a Language other than English - remove from Intermediate Greek-English Lexicon, Abridged BDB
- Old Testament Greek Pseudipigrapha with Morphology needs Greek added to Language
- Pirke Avot: Timeless Wisdom for Modern Life: Hebrew Text needs Hebrew added to Language
- Works of John Owen: Volume 17 - language should be “Latin; English” not just Latin; the sermons and discourses are in English
Title Capitalization Errors
Individual Resources or groups of resources
- Apostolic Fathers - all versions need the original authors added to the Author column, like the ECF now have
- Try again, please. You only fixed Holmes, not Lake, Lightfoot or Brannan.
- Book of Common Prayer - short title default should be BCP; it’s currently blank
- The Harvard Classics 33: Voyages and Travels - missing original authors (and the whole series needs to be checked for consistency)
- Interpreting the Gospel of John: A Practical Guide (Gary Burge, 2nd ed.) – cover image doesn’t match that shown on the Logos website; it’s the cover image of the first edition
- Lexham Septuagints - Rahlfs and Swete should be added to the author column for the versions based on their editions
- Our Lord: An Affirmation of the Deity of Christ - author’s name should be spelled out: William Childs Robinson (not Wm., even though it’s spelled that way inside the book); website has it correctly
Special Process Books (Perseus, Vyrso)
- We have a couple of different production workflows for different product lines, and they involve different metadata curation methods.
- Perseus books were done en masse using metadata from an existing database, with the original databases’ formatting and standards. While I sometimes make updates to Perseus books to fix unambiguous errors, the “differing standards” problems are “known issues”, and outside of the realm of my spot-checking.
- Vyrso books go through a special “tradebook” process that involves less functionality tagging (which winds up determining the display of metadata fields with functionality associated with them) and less polish to the metadata fields in general. They’re also more difficult to fix, as they’re listed in a different database than the Logos Editions that I officially manage. I can fix genuine errors, but like Perseus, some Vyrso issues are just “known issues”. ~Hayley Price
- Perseus Resources - some resources have pubdate: not following the usual convention of giving a four-digit year but give other date formats, this defies sort or select operations
- Perseus Resources - some resources have empty pubdate: field
- [Vyrso] Josh McDowell’s Unshakable Truth Journey Growth Guides for Adults, hyphen inconsistencies in the titles (Inspired, Created, and Broken all have single hyphen with spaces around it; Forgiven has single hyphen with no spaces around it; Sacrifice, Growing, and Resurrected all have — (em dash) with no spaces around it); not a big deal for functionality but looks sloppy when these titles are grouped together in library)
- Belief in the Word: Reading the Fourth Gospel, John 1–4, Signs and Shadows: Reading John 5–12 and Glory Not Dishonor: Reading John 13–21 should be part of the same series (perhaps call it “Reading John”?).
- Walk Genesis!, Walk Exodus!, Walk Leviticus!, Walk Numbers! and Walk Deuteronomy! should be part of the same series (perhaps call it “Walk!”?).
- Whilst not technically part of a series, it might be helpful to add each of Peter A. Stevenson’s commentaries into a series.
- E. A. Abbott == Edwin A. Abbott
- Ronald B. Allen == Ronald Barclay Allen?
- Thabiti Anyabwile == Thabiti M. Anyabwile? (possibly a moot point; see above re: Glory Road)
- J. Barton == John Barton?
- Raymond Brown == Raymond Edward Brown? (also the names of the two collections of his books refer to him as Raymond E. Brown)
- T. A. Buckley == Theodore Alois Buckley?
- Cicero == M. Tullius Cicero
- Arnold Dallimore == Arnold A. Dallimore?
- Wayne Grudem == Wayne A. Grudem (seems to be Logos vs. Vyrso with/without A.)
- Raphael Holinshed == Raphaell Holinshed (see http://community.logos.com/forums/t/74373.aspx )
- à Lapide, Cornelius == should be sorted on L, not C
- Peter Leithart == Peter J. Leithart?
- D. Martyn Lloyd-Jones == Martyn Lloyd-Jones
- Myron Penner == Myron Bradley Penner?
- Stuart Sacks == Stuart D. Sacks?
- Philip Sidney == Sir Philip Sidney?
- Gordon Smith == Gordon T. Smith
- Derek Thomas == Derek W. H. Thomas?
- The remaining listed publishers (as of 8/7/14) are intentional doubles. Here’s the logic behind them: There’s a value in standardizing publisher names down to one version, for the sake of an organized library. But there’s also a real value in keeping different iterations of publisher names separate, for the sake of cataloguing editions and citing books accurately. Older publishers especially altered their names all the time; similar to modern day law offices, the names could change every time a new partner joined the firm. My solution, as it was, was to treat every addition of a name or implied name—”& Son” or “& Co.” or whatever—as a new publisher name. This is the reason for most of the name duplicates below. This gets complicated and there are exceptions, though, such as the following cases:
- When there are just too many names. The publisher currently listed as ‘Longmans’ includes 14 variants with up to 5 proper names in a string. Sometimes the names are the same, and they just change the order in which they are cited. We combined them all for our collective sanity.
- When two related names are distinct legal entities. IVP and Inter-Varsity are the UK and US branches of a parent group, and they remain separate by choice. You’ll notice that books they publish internationally will list both publishers separately in the front matter. Macmillan and Macmillan Company is another publisher that duo-bills like this.
- When a publisher rebrands across the board. Given the way publishers rebrand, acquire each other, merge, and deploy or retract imprints, there is a potential danger to wind up standardizing everything into the same few, uninformative names. That’s why I prefer to stay a little redundant with the older publisher names, like George Bell and Sons, and to sometimes capture imprint names in the metadata rather than parent publishers (also, imprints get convoluted fast). This is also why publisher names aren’t standardized in the bibliographic citation fields. We want them to remain edition-accurate for users constructing academic reports. ~Hayley Price
- C. Scribner == Charles Scribner & Co. == Charles Scribner’s Sons?
- E. Dilly == Edward and Charles Dilly?
- G. Bell == George Bell and Sons?
- Ignatius - should be Ignatius Press (change needed on website as well)
- This was intentional, part of an initial push to simplify publisher names down to the shortest possible versions. This became untenable when we noted it would result in too many publishers simplified down to the same name (Universities in particular draw a distinction between their own publications and the publications of their Presses). ~Hayley Price
- P. J. Kenedy == P. J. Kenedy & Sons?
- Robert Carter == Robert Carter & Brothers?
- Simpkin Marshall == Simpkin, Marshall, and Co.?
- William Hunt == William Hunt and Company?
Publication Date Inconsistencies
- Series:Lange’s Commentary most volumes reflect the Citation & epub date 2008, but 15 volumes have a date ranging from 1867 to 1900.
- Lange’s! My ancient foe! I’ve swapped the odd-15 out back to 2008. Why 2008? Well, it has to do with reprint formatting and the materials we worked from when initially making these. You’d be amazed at how consistently we have debates about the proper handling of public domain resources, reprints, materials, and their metadata.
- The problem of inconsistencies between footnote citations and general bibliographic citations should now be resolved. Please let us know if you’re still seeing instances of this.
- Holman New Testament Commentary The Mark volume lost its Abbrev. Title “HNTC Mk” sometime after August 8, 2015!
- Weeeeird. I can’t see this in my setup but I found the likely cause—Let me know if the problem is recurring. ~Hayley Price
- Eerdmans Companion to the Bible should have “Bible—Commentaries” instead of “Bible—Introductions”
- Thru the Bible Series. Remove “Bible—Commentaries” from each of the 60 volumes because its use implies each volume is a complete commentary.
Start: Theology —>
- We get subjects from a variety of different places—some we assign ourselves, some we grab from library systems that assigned them post-publication, and sometimes publishers will actually include them in books. A good ten of the following books include “theology” subjects in their front matter, in their Library of Congress Cataloguing-In-Publication Data. I’d prefer not to institute a “throw out the subject the publisher gives you” rule if I can possibly avoid it, it becomes a shockingly persistent production problem. Is there a reason to avoid “theology” subjects beyond consolidation? Or perhaps some resouces where “theology” was used completely inaccurately? ~Hayley Price
- I’ve withdrawn the general suggestion about ‘pastoral theology’ as its usage appears to be restricted to titles on Leadership, Pastors, etc. but its application is not consistent. Other titles apply “theology” inaccurately or misleadingly e.g. the 3x “300 Quotations for Preachers...” don’t discuss theology! “Captured by Grace....” and “Grace abounding to the chief of sinners” have ‘Grace (theology)’; where ‘theology’ is only a clarification of ‘grace’. I’ve modified the list acordingly. ~Dave Hooton
- 300 Quotations for Preachers... the 3x titles in the Pastorum Series don’t discuss Theology as a topic!
- Captured by grace: No one is beyond... - the non-Study Guide only uses ‘Theology’ to clarify ‘Grace’.
- Classic Pastoral Care series. Use of “Pastoral Theology” is inconsistent amongst these volumes.
- Grace abounding to the chief of sinners only uses ‘Theology’ to clarify ‘Grace’
- Leadership Library series. Use of “Pastoral Theology” is inconsistent amongst these volumes.
- Library of leadership development series. One volume does not have ‘Pastoral Theology’ as a Subject.
- Mastering Ministry series. Use of “Pastoral Theology” is inconsistent amongst these volumes.
- Mastering Ministry’s Pressure series. Use of “Pastoral Theology” is inconsistent amongst these volumes.
- The Pastors soul series. Use of “Pastoral Theology” is inconsistent amongst these volumes.
- Powers in encounter with power:... is a commentary about spiritual warfare, not Theology.
- Tozer topical reader in two volumes is a collection of writings, not Theology.
For background to the changes suggested for Commentaries see http://community.logos.com/forums/t/73354.aspx.
Commentaries with “bible—handbooks”, “bible—outlines”, “bible—antiquities”, “bible—introductions”, “bible—criticism” should instead list the bible books they contain or state “Bible—Commentaries” if their coverage is complete. NOTE they can be identified by type:commentary ANDNOT subject:(O.T., N.T., Commentaries)
Grammars with O.T. or N.T. e.g. A Biblical Hebrew Reference Grammar, Greek New Testament Insert, Hebrew Bible Insert -> please remove as per other Grammars.
Lexicons with O.T. or N.T. -> please apply as per commentaries/bibles e.g. O.T. is useful with a Greek lexicon of the Septuagint but don’t apply to lexicons with full coverage.
Any Resource with “Criticism” in the subject. I do not think this is relevant to the majority of resources, especially commentaries. Probably only applies to Bible Apparatus (“textual criticism”) and some Monographs.
- This is a very commonly used subheading within Library of Congress Subject Headings. It would be a massive undertaking to try to remove it. At the moment, this subheading is doing its part to distinguish between full commentaries, general overviews, and plain translations of a bible book. That’s within our system, at least, where we have a general rule of attaching ‘Commentaries’ headings to our functionality-designated commentaries. Within the larger LCSH system these are applied individually by librarians to the best of their judgment, and sometimes by publishers who want LoC Call information in their front matter. The same book may be labeled very differently between libraries.
Suggested Changes to Logos Standards
Commentaries and Bible Notes Types: Logos’ use of these types is primarily functional rather than descriptive. The Commentary type is broadly defined to include many different kinds of resources that are indexed by Bible verse, while the Bible Notes type is used exclusively for the notes from a Bible (usually study Bible notes). Some users would like to see a more restrictive definition of the Commentary type that would exclude things like:
- Bible History: Old Testament, Encountering the Book of Romans: A Theological Survey, Holman Bible Handbook, New Manners and Customs of the Bible, Searching for Heaven on Earth (2 x D. Jeremiah), A Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament, Word Pictures in the NT, Word Studies in the NT, Wuest’s Word Studies in the Greek NT, Holman Concise Bible Commentary, With the Word Bible Commentary, anything with “Study Bible/Guide”, “Studies”, or “Bible Handbook” in its title.
Errors Dependent on a resource update
- The Collected Writings Of W.E. Vine commentary section, should be type:commentary. It needs Bible milestones in order to function as well.
- The Complete Works of Thomas Manton, Volume 4 - is a Bible commentary (on James), not monograph. It needs Bible milestones as well.
- The Complete Works of Thomas Manton, Volume 5 - is a Bible commentary (on Jude), not monograph. It needs Bible milestones as well.
- Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount and His Confrontation with the World should be type “Bible Commentary” and have a Bible index
- The Life of Christ: A Study Guide to the Gospel Record - TYPE should not be “Bible Commentary” as it is a “Study Guide”.
- The Messages of the Bible series should all be type:bible-commentary and have Bible indexes. Currently only the volume on the Gospel of John is set up that way.
Unfortunately, it is very difficult to change a book’s cover image once it has been published. The cover image visible in the info pane is embedded in the files, and cannot be replaced without creating new resource files. However, please keep telling us when you find cover images that are missing or incorrect! I promise you we are keeping this list, and are swapping out cover images when we can! ~HP
- Archaeology Odyssey - missing covers, despite them being in the resource
- Bible and Spade - missing covers, despite them being in the resource
- Bible Review - missing covers, despite them being in the resource
- Biblical Archaeologist missing covers, despite them being in the resource
- Biblical Archaeology Review is missing covers, despite them being in the resource
- A Commentary on the Vision of Zechariah the Prophet: Bible Text - a newsly published resource
- Discipleship Journal - missing covers, despite them being in the resource
- Evangelical Dictionary of Biblical Theology - cover image should be changed to the official one used on the product description page
- Handbook of Evangelical Theologians - cover image doesn’t match what’s on the website
- Hermeneia - the two volumes from Upgrade 2 (1 Enoch 2, Psalms 3) have cover images of a different size than the other volumes. The product page seems to indicate they should be the same size.
- The History of the English Baptists has cover images that prominently say 1811-1830 on them. This makes no sense as that’s not the period the books cover (which is about 1320-1663), nor the period during which the books were published (which was 1738-1740).
- History of Israel by John Bright needs to have cover art corrected (see ] for correct one; it is using this thumbnail version: ], which is also showing up on the website)
- Luther’s Small Catechism with Explanation by CPH – missing cover image
- MacArthur’s New Testament Commentary series needs consistent cover images
- The Marrow of Modern Divinity - correct format on the product page, wrong format in the resource
- Memoirs of the Life and Writings of John Calvin Description and cover are for a book of the same name by a different author. (Author should be Mackenzie)
- The Minor Prophets by Hampton Keathley – missing cover image
- *Sir Robert Anderson Collection – missing cover images
- Studies in Revelation by J. Hampton Keathley, III – missing cover image