Using the Forum

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Overview of using the Forum

  • You probably got to the forum from Logos main site or the Logos blog.
    Don’t forget to add the forum webpage to your favorite or bookmarks.
    You might also want to add this wiki page to your favorite or bookmarks.



  • If you are new to the forum, it is advised to have this wiki page open in one tab/window and open the Forum Home page in another tab/window. This will allow you to switch back and forth as you learn the different parts of the forum.

Who is the forum for?

  • The Logos forum is for users of Logos Bible Software.
  • To log into the forum you will need to use your User ID and Password that you use to log into the Logos site.
    • New users make sure that your Logos user name is set to something other than your email address.
      Otherwise spam bots on the web may get your email address.
    • Your user name on the forum is not your Logos User ID.
    • To change your user name see Changing Forum Display Name
  • You will need to be logged into the forum to:
    • Add a new post or reply to another post.
    • To have the forum remember which posts that you have viewed. (already viewed post links show in darker text, unviewed posts show as blue links)

What do you do on the forum?

  • Logo forum is useful to ask questions pertaining to Logos software.
    • There are many here on the forum which are able to help you.
    • There are many articles (posts) on the forum which cover a variety of problems with answers to resolve those problems.!!!
      You may want to search for a post which covers your subject. Please see Searching for posts.
    • The forum is useful in asking advice on which resources to use to help you on specific topics.
    • Closely associated to the forum is the wiki which users have built which can instruct you on using various features of the software.
  • Its useful to read articles (posts) which may help you to learn more about how to use Logos software.
  • For the users which already know how to use the software, this is a place where you can help others with the software.

What is a post?

  • Posts are articles which a user has started.
    • The person who starts the posts sets the subject of the post. (see How do I start a new post?)
    • Others (or yourself) who view the post then reply to that post. And it is added to the end of the article (post).
    • If you find a post in which you want to add a reply, see Adding a Reply to a post

Where do I start on the forum?

  • Start on the Forum Home page.
  • Once there select a forum (there are several different forums)
    • General: for general questions or subjects and NOT software problems.
    • Logos 5: for the Logos 5 version of Logos Software. It is for both Windows users and Mac users.
    • Logos 4 Windows: for the Windows user of Logos 4.
    • Logos 4 Mac: for the Mac user of Logos 4.
    • Logos 3/Libronix: for older versions of Logos Software.
    • Logos for Mac 1: for the older version of Logos Mac software.
    • Learn to Use ...: for the Learning to use series of videos.
  • From the forum Home page, select a forum to view. (see Forum Home page)
    • After you have selected a forum, that forum will open in your browser. (see Forum page)
    • Now start browsing through the posts.
      When you find a post subject that you want to view, click on the post subject.
      It will open the Post in a post viewing page. (see Post page)

How do I start a new post?

  • On the first page of a forum you will see the link Write a New Post (as shown below).
    Just click on this link and it will open the Basic Post editor (please see Basic post editor)



  • Once that you have finished editing your post, press the Post button below the editor.
    Make sure that you have entered a descriptive Subject before you press the Post button.

Adding a Reply to a post

  • There are two ways to add a reply
    • Quick Reply: at the bottom of each reply in a post you will see the Quick Reply link.
    • Just click on this link and it will take you to the Basic post editor.
    • Just add your reply using the editor. Then press the Post button under the editor to submit your reply.
    • It will add your reply to the end of the post.

    • Reply: which allows you to quote from another’s post reply.
    • When you find someone’s reply that you want to quote from, you will find a link Reply on the right side of that reply.
    • Click on the Reply link and it will take you to the Reply editor. Please see Reply post editor.




Forum Home page


Basic help on the Forum Home page

  

  1. Sign In/Out
    1. If you sign in, the forum will remember posts that you have viewed.
      You will be able to add a new post or reply to a post.
    2. Changing your forum display name, see Changing Forum Display Name

  2. Edit
    1. You can edit your personal page (others can click on your name link to view this information about you).
      (See Editing your Forum settings)

  3. These are the rules to follow when using the forum.

  4. These are the different forums in which you can view or post in.
    Be careful using the link to the right of each forum labeled Mark Forum Read, when you click on this you cannot undo the marking.

  5. This will take you to the wiki. It contains helpful information on using Logos software which has been provided by other users.

  6. Takes you to a page which shows you posts which you have not read.

  7. Takes you to a page where you can subscribe to forums.
    When you subscribe, an email will be sent to you when something changes in that forum.
    You can turn ON/OFF your subscriptions here.

  8. Takes you to a page where you can setup a feed.

  9. Takes you to a page where which shows you posts which have been tagged.
    The larger the tag word, the more posts have been tagged with this word.




Recent Topics (found on Home)

  • This area shows recent topics across all forums. It can be sorted per items 1,2,3, or 4, per instructions below.

 

  1. All Recent, this is the default. It shows the most recent topics that have been changed. If you refresh the home page it will update the list (if anything has changed).
  2. Unanswered, this sorts to show the most recent posts which have not been replied to. Basically it is new posts in which no one has answered.
  3. Unread, this sorts to show the most recent posts which you have not read (if someone has replied since you’ve read it, then it will show as unread).
  4. Your Discussions, this sorts to show the most recent posts which you have replied to at some time. So somewhere within these posts you have left a reply.
  5. This is the post subject. (clicking on the subject will open that post to the beginning of it.)
  6. This is the forum where the post resides. (clicking here will open to that forum, not this particular post)
  7. This is the author of the last reply on this post. (clicking on it will take you to the author’s information page)
  8. This shows you the number of times this post has been viewed (on the left) and the number of times it has been replied to (on the right).
  9. This is the time when the last reply to the post was done by the author (item 7). (clicking on this will open the post to the end where the last author posted)
  10. View more, will open recent topics into a full page view.




Forum page


General features

  • Once that you have selected a Forum from the home page, you will be brought to a Forum page which shows posts within that Forum.

 

  1. The name of the Forum.
  2. Clicking here will take you back to the Forum Home page.
  3. Clicking here will refresh this Forum page.
  4. Clicking here will allow you to customize how the posts are displayed on this forum page.
  5. Click here to create a new post. You will be taken to the forum post editor. (see Basic post editor)
  6. Click here to mark all posts in this forum as Read (careful you cannot undo this).




Post links

 

  1. Subject of the post. Blue subjects indicates that you have not viewed this post. Black subject indicates that you have read the post. (note: if someone adds or edits a reply within the post, then it will turn blue again)
  2. A link to the last reply to this post. It was posted by item 3.
  3. The author that last replied to the post. (clicking on the author’s name will take you to their public information page that the author has supplied)
  4. Date/Time of the last Reply.
  5. When you see number(s) here, this indicates that there are multiple pages (fills more than one webpage). You can click on any of the numbers to take you to that specific page.
  6. This number indicates the number of replies to this post. (Note: a new post will show 0, as no one else has replied to it)




Post Icon Meanings

  • You may notice an icon to the left of a post subject when viewing a Forum page (you will also see this in Recent Topics on the Home page).


    The shape and colored dot/star indicate information about that post.
  • If you hold your mouse over the icon, a pop-up info will appear letting you know the basic info that the icon is trying to relate.



Meanings

  • If the star or dot is red, then you have not viewed this post or the post has changed since the last time you viewed it.
  • on the left center of the icon is a Push Pin. This indicates that this post is sticky’d. A sticky post remains at the top of a Forum list and newer post will appear under them. Those at Logos who moderate the forum determine how long this sticky post will remain in the sticky state (so they may at some point disappear from the top). These will only be at the top of the 1st page of a forum when sticky’d.

  • icon with an exclamation mark indicates that this post is Important or may have a Warning.

  • icon with a lock on the left center indicate that this post is locked and no more replies may be added.

  • a dot on the upper left corner of the icon indicates that this post has been viewed less than 150 times. If the dot is red this also indicates that you have not viewed this post since it was last changed or added.

  • a star at the bottom left/right indicated that this is a popular post which has been view at least 150 times. If the star is red then you have not viewed this post since it was changed or added.




Post page


Basic part of a Post page

  • This is the page where you can view the post contents along with its replies.

 

  1. Subject for this post
  2. Found on the 1st page of the post. Details about this post.
  3. Quick Reply, clicking on this allows you to add a reply after the last reply on this post. It will open the basic post editor. (see Basic post editor)
  4. Reply, you will notice this in each reply. It allows you to open a special post editor which allows you to reply specifically to this post/reply. It will allow you to insert quotes from this reply within your reply. (see Reply post editor)
  5. More, will display a drop down menu of options.

    1. Click here to view your options.
    2. This drop down menu will appear.
      1. Report Abuse will take you to a page to report an abusive forum user (Please first make all possible attempts to resolve this through discussions within the post and Only as a last resort use this option).
      2. Add this post as a favorite will add a link to this specific reply in your profile (click on your username found in the top right area of the forum webpages to view your profile).
      3. Add this forum as a favorite will add this forum as a favorite in your profile.
        • The items below only appear on posts/replies that you have posted
      4. Edit will take you to the post editor where you can make corrections or additions to your post/reply. This item in this drop down menu is time dependent and may only be available for several hours (maybe 12). (depending on which editor that you originally used. see Basic post editor or Reply post editor).
      5. Delete will open choices for you to delete your reply. This item is time dependent and also requires that you have not edited your reply.
  6. Email me when someone replies, clicking on this will send you an email notifying you when someone replies to this post (providing that you are logged into the Forum)
  7. You may see this grayed text under some replyer’s post. This is known as a signature. You can edit your signature from the Forum’s Home/Forum pages, look in the upper right corner of the page and click on Edit. (you will need to be logged onto the Forum to do this)




Basic post editor

  

  • When writing a new post, please don’t forget to add the subject.
    And please try to make the subject descriptive for your post.


  1. Click in the body of the editor. And start typing your reply.
  2. You can enhance text within your reply by selecting the appropriate text that you’ve entered in the body. Then select the enhancement from the toolbar.
  3. Once that you have your reply finished, click on the Post button. (do this only once. Sometimes there is a delay in the web and clicking on it multiple time will enter your post multiple times.)


  4. Standard toolbar components

    1. Bold
      [hint: you can use Ctrl B on your keyboard to toggle this]
    2. Italic
      [hint: you can use Ctrl I on your keyboard to toggle this]
    3. Underlined
      [hint: you can use Ctrl U on your keyboard to toggle this]
    4. Strike-through
    5. Indent/Unindent
    6. Bullets
    7. Numeric lists
    8. Hyperlink
      [hint: in the drop down tool, you can use the 2nd field to force a new tab/page when the user clicks your link]
    9. Insert Image or file
      [hint: when entering an image, after the image appears click on the right side of the image and press Enter to get a new line under it. You will probably have to scroll back down to see the new line.]
    10. Smiley (drop down list)
    11. Cut / Copy / Paste
    12. (left intentionally blank)
    13. Paste from Word
      [hint: after copying stuff from Word into the clipboard, use this to avoid extraneous text from showing up]
    14. HTML editor
      [requires knowledge of HTML]
    15. Heading methods
  • [hint: to avoid double spacing after pressing the Enter key, hold the shift key down when hitting the Enter key.]
  • Note: To get the enhanced content editor, with additional toolbar controls:
    (While not composing a reply) Click Edit in the upper right corner of the Forum screen, to edit your profile. Click Site Options. For Content Editor, select Enhanced. Click Save down at the bottom of the screen. Click Save again down at the bottom of the next screen. Now next time you’re editing a reply, you should have a couple of new controls available:

    1. text color
    2. background color

Note: the spell checker in the toolbar shows up in Internet Explorer browser. Other browsers may not show this tool, but many will show a red underline for misspelled word and if you right click on those words, browsers will show a list of words which may pick from.

  • hints:
    After you finish editing and have posted your changes, do not use your browser’s Back button/feature as it will return you to the editor page again.
    Also after hitting the Post button be patient and wait for the Logos server to complete this action, otherwise if you press Post again it might duplicate your post.




Reply post editor

  • When you click on Reply in a specific post/reply, the Forum will direct you to the reply editor.



    1. Use your mouse to select the text in the poster’s reply that you want to insert into your reply.
    2. Click in the body of your reply where you want the quoted text pasted.
    3. Click on Quote.
    4. The editor will insert the quoted text.



    5. Click behind the quoted text to position the cursor there. Press enter to insert a new line and finish composing your reply.



    6. To preview your reply, click here.
    7. If you have previewed, and decide that you want to continue editing, then click here.
    8. If you want to tag this reply, click here. Tagging is used by the Forum software with the search function (doesn’t seem to work real well)
    9. When you are satisfied with your post, press Post to complete the process.
    10. If you decide that you want to cancel your editing your reply, use the Back button in your browser to return to the post.

Adding a picture to a Post

You can insert pictures into your post, you probably have seen many posts where the users have inserted images of Logos screens. You will need your picture in a file which is in JPG or PNG format (a few other formats might work). If you are trying to capture image(s) from your computer screen and do not know how, please see this wiki page first (Screenshot).

  1. Make sure that you have your picture saved in a file on your computer (see Screenshot).
  2. Open the post editor
    [For a reply see Basic part of a Post page steps 3 or 4]
    [For a new post see How do I start a new post?].


  3. Position the cursor in the body of the post where you want your image to be placed.
  4. In the Post Editor’s toolbar, click on the paperclip icon to insert an image.


  5. The Post Editor will cause a pop-up box to appear. You will need to press the Browse button. Now another pop-up box will appear allowing you to locate your picture file. After you locate your picture file on your computer’s hard drive, click on the file. Then click on the Open button. The pop-up boxes will now disappear and you will see your picture’s filename in the box to the left of the Browse button.
  6. Click on the Insert button.


  7. After a few seconds (while your picture file is being uploaded to Logos Forum’s site) you should see your picture in the Post editor’s body. If you click on the picture you should see bubbles on the corners of the image for resizing, you can use these to resize the image if you please. If you click to the right of your picture (places the cursor to the right of the image) you can then press the Enter key to insert a new line below your image for adding more text in your post.

Adding Links to a Post

You can add links inside your post, to other posts or websites. Below is an example of adding a link to another post. To add a link in which you already have a URL saved in your clipboard, skip to step # 3.



  1. Find the post that you want to get a link for and then press the icon to the left of the user’s name. Your browser will then be located so that post is at the top of the browser.
  2. In the Address bar of your browser use your mouse to select the entire address. Then right click on the selected address, a pop-up menu should show. In the pop-up menu click on Copy to have your address copied to the clipboard.


  3. The simplest method is to position the cursor and then paste the link into your post.
  4. Another way is to type text that you want to be a link. Then with your mouse drag over that text to select it.
    1. Next in the Post editor’s toolbar click on the chain link.
    2. A pop-up box will appear for adding the address.
    3. Right click in the Link URL box. In the pop-up box click on Paste.
    4. Click on the Insert button to add the address to your selected text.




Editing your Forum settings

  • From any of the Forum pages when you are logged into the forum you can edit your forum settings.
    Please notice that links shown below appear in the upper right corner of forum pages.



    a) If you click on your login name it will take you to your public viewed page. See Public page subtopic below.
    b) If you click on the Edit link, it will take you to a page for editing your Profile/Site Options. See Profile/Site Options subtopic below.
  • You can view other’s public page by clicking on their avatar within a post. Or click on their name next to a post.



Your Public page

  • Others on the forum can view this page, but only you can edit it.
    With the exception of others leaving comments.

  1. This is the number of posts/replies that you have submitted to the forum.
  2. This is your Avatar. If you click on the link below the avatar, it will take you to your Logos MyAccount page where you can change your avatar.
  3. Here you can enter your biographical information which you want to share with others.
  4. You can click on these links to add an Announcement. It will open an editor where you can compose your announcement. (remember to add the subject in the editor)
    It will show up here on your public page under Announcements.
  5. Here is where you can view your favorites which you have marked when viewing posts.
    (when viewing a post, if you click on More and in the drop down list click on Add this post as a favorite then that post will be added to your favorites here.



    1. If you have a lot of favorites you can click here to view multiple page view of your favorites.
  6. This heading will show you/others which forum posts that you have viewed.
    This can be changed on Site Options page.
  7. This heading allows you to see comments that others have left on your Public page.
  8. This heading shows others feeds that you want to share with them.
    Click on the link under this heading to add your shared feeds.


Editing your Profile/Site Options

  • [To Be Added]




Searching for posts

At the top of the Forum Home page and every Forum page is a Search box like this



It is a very basic search feature. Type your search terms in and press Enter or click the magnifying glass icon.

  • You can use double-quotes for a phrase search.
  • You can enter multiple non-quoted search terms and it will OR them together by default (the OR keyword is not understood).
  • You can combine two single-word search terms using AND (it must be upper case), but not more than that
  • You can’t AND phrases together with each other or with other terms, nor can you use parentheses.


The results appear in no particular order. You can page through multiple pages worth of results using the controls at the bottom of each page:



On the search results page, you can also refine your search further using the controls at the top:



Searching the forum using Google

Since the forum search functionality is so limited, many people prefer to use Google with site:community.logos.com as one of the search terms. Then you can narrow it down as much as you like using the power of Google’s boolean operators.

  • AND is the default when terms are combined together with no operators between, or you can be explicit about it using AND.
  • You can specify OR using the vertical bar or “pipe” character (|) which is shorthand for OR (the latter works as well).
  • You can omit specific terms from the search results by preceding them with a minus sign (-) with no spaces between.
  • Google search understands the wildcard character (*).
  • You can combine boolean operators in complex ways using curly brackets { } (equivalent to parentheses in Logos searches).
  • You can restrict the results to a particular sub-forum (say, the Logos 5 forum) by including the “breadcrumb” text that appears at the top of any thread in that forum, e.g.: “Home > Logos 5”.
  • For more information about Google Search capabilities, see Basic search help and More search help

  • Also see this website (Searching the Logos Forums) for scripts which can be added to FireFox to help you search the Forum or the Wiki.




Editing or deleting posts

Click the “More” button to the right of the post (1).



A menu will drop down with an Edit and a Delete command (if available).



You can edit a post for up to several hours after posting it, and you can delete a post only if you do so fairly quickly, within a couple of minutes after posting. If you miss this window of opportunity, you will no longer be able to edit or delete the post. The Edit and/or Delete commands will be missing from the More menu.



Following up on threads

If you’ve posted a question or added a comment to a thread, chances are you might want to follow up on that thread to see if someone has posted a response or replied to your comment. While you can use the “Email me when someone replies” option as mentioned above, this gets to be a pain since you have to click it for every single thread you’re interested in. And it can flood your email Inbox. The better way to follow up on threads you’ve participated in is to click on “Your Discussions” under “Recent Topics” every day or so and visit the unread threads (the ones marked bold) as they will have new posts since the last time you visited them. Click on the date column to the far right to get to the most recent post (at the end of the thread). Be sure to read any other intervening posts since your last one (which might require scrolling back to a previous page in the thread) before commenting again. Much unnecessary virtual ink has been spilled and misunderstandings caused due to people posting without reading (or at least skimming) the full thread.

Some ideas for making the most of the forum

Favorite posts and linking to specific posts



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