Mac and PC User Interface Differences

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See also
 Keyboard Shortcuts For Mac
 Keyboard Shortcuts For Windows
 Logos for Mac
 Mac Release Notes and History
 Mac Troubleshooting

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Common Experience

Logos for Mac and Logos for PC share code base – most items function identically on both platforms (including right and left mouse click options in File, Guides, and Layouts menus). Primary User Interface differences are Screen layout and icon colors.

Default File Paths

Operating System Library Path (per user) (substitute your user name for username)
Mac OS X /Users/username/Library/Application Support/Logos4 – On OS X, Logos4 folder is used by Logos 5 and Logos 4
Mac OS X /Users/username/Library/Application Support/Verbum – New Verbum install
Windows 8, 7, & Vista C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Verbum – New Verbum install
Windows 8, 7, & Vista C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Logos5 – New Logos 5 install
Windows 8, 7, & Vista C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Logos4 – Logos 4 install, which can be upgraded to Logos 5
Windows XP C:\Documents and Settings\username\Local Settings\Application Data\Logos4 – Logos 4 install that is not upgradeable

Easter Egg

Logos for Mac has an Easter Egg:

Feature Parity

Not yet Fixed – Logos 5 and 4

Won’t Fix

Future plans

  • PC Syriac ligature connected correctly, but Mac displays Syriac text as independent letters. Mac final forms are disconnected Logos User Voice suggestion => Connect Syriac Ligature on Mac
    • Logos: Text display is a function of the operating system, not Logos. Some ancient scripts have errors on certain platforms. We plan to implement our own low-level text shaping / rendering in a future release of Logos Bible Software, to ensure consistency across all platforms, but until then will be unable to address text shaping bugs at the OS level.
    • Logos 5.2a => Thanks! Syriac is now better, but..
  • PC Text Comparison can select and copy individual verses, but Mac needs workaround using Print/Export
    • Logos: The Windows edition gets text selection “for free” from the system-level control used to display the comparison grid. On the Mac we have to render the grid directly; there’s no “free” support for text selection. This would be very expensive to write, and our future plans involve an alternate display path that will again give us “free” selection support from the platform. We are unlikely to fix this until we make this more fundamental change.
  • PC Command can import Libronix 3 file(s) while Mac import has lots of leaking memory errors
    • Logos: Importing old documents isn’t officially supported on Mac. However, we will look into the memory leaks for Sentence Diagram importing in a future release.
  • PC Library indexing is substantially faster than Mac – Logos 4.5 regression
    • Logos: We are constantly investigating options to improve performance of indexing on both platforms. For Mac in particular we have some internal prototypes that have shown significant improvements. Once these have been thoroughly tested and stabilized we hope to ship the improvements in a future release.
    • Logos 5.1 indexing on OS X is noticeably faster than Logos 4.5
  • PC Timelines has styles menu to change timeline appearance, not yet implemented on Mac
    • Logos: We are investigating options for unifying the Mac and Windows timeline layout logic which will give us the ability to share skins on both platforms for timelines.
    • Note: Logos 5 Timeline Tool on PC and Mac has style choices, but Timeline resources on OS X lack style choices.

Logos User Voice suggestion => Improve Mac Feature Parity with PC

Floating Window

Mac Library in A Floating Window with Type column clicked using Logos 4.2a on Mac
PC Library in A Floating Window with Type column clicked

Indexer Icon

On Mac, blue Logos Indexer icon appears to the left of icons on upper right portion of menu bar. On PC, blue Logos Indexer icon appears in notification area.

Hover mouse over blue Logos icon for downloading or indexing progress information:

Mac PC

Keyboard Shortcuts

Many PC shortcuts that use Ctrl key have corresponding Command key equivalent on Mac

On Mac, if “Use all F1, F2, etc. keys as standard keys” in Keyboard preferences is unchecked, then (fn) key needs to be pressed with Function Key.

Logging

  • On Mac, logging was always enabled until Logos 4.3 Beta 5, see Mac diagnostic logging - opening log file defaults to scrolling contents as more line(s) written to log file
  • On PC, when diagnostic logging needed, must be enabled
Operating System Complete Log Path (substitute your user name for username) Quick Access Path
Mac OS X /Users/username/Library/Application Support/Logos4/Logging ~/Library/Application Support/Logos4/Logging
Mac OS X /Users/username/Library/Application Support/Verbum/Logging ~/Library/Application Support/Verbum/Logging
Windows 8, 7 & Vista C:\Users\username\My Documents\Logos Log Files (My) Documents\Logos Log Files
Windows 8, 7 & Vista C:\Users\username\My Documents\Logos Log Files (My) Documents\Verbum Log Files
Windows XP C:\Documents and Settings\username\My Documents\Logos Log Files My Documents\Logos Log Files

Microsoft Word 2011 on Mac automatically converts logosres:#### URL’s to file://localhost/logosres/#### while Word 2010 on Windows keeps logosres:#### URL’s.
Logos thread Using logosres links on Macintosh has online ref.ly option
Logos for Mac forum threads => Export to Word 2011 and => Camp Logos 2 Live for Mac Issue

Mac workaround: export Logos collection to RTF, open with LibreOffice, save as docx, then build Personal Book so can use collection hyperlinks in Logos for Mac.

Morphology Pop-up

Mac shows Morphology Pop-up in lower left grey border of window (when hovering over an item). On PC, Morphology Pop-up is displayed along bottom of panel.

Notes Spell Check

Logos for Mac can use OS X Spelling and Grammar checking in Notes, while PC has Logos User Voice Suggestion => Spell Checker in Notes (from wish list)
For Notes, Logos User Voice Suggestions => Rework Notes function – in one or multiple phases and => Highlighting and Notes Integration Improvements

Printing & Export

Logos 4.2a on Mac & PC, Resource Panel menu has Print/Export (PC Examples), (Forum has Mac examples). Both Mac and PC have image context menu with Send to PowerPoint and Print. Mac image menu also has Send to Keynote.

Program Icon

Logos 4.2a Mac Logos 4.2a PC

Program Scaling

On PC, Program Settings has Program Scaling. On Mac, due to bugs and other issues, Program Scaling was removed, recommend reset to 100 %.
Logos 4.5 on Mac added many Font Sliders.
Mac OS X has several accessibility options, including screen magnification zoom + / - with option-command keyboard shortcuts
Setting Mac OS X screen resolution smaller effectively magnifies everything (amount of fuzziness for using smaller resolution depends on monitor)

Resource Update

Mac – click Logos icon jumping on dock then click OK PC – logos icon on task bar – click icon then click Restart

Right Click

Logos has many Right Click (contextual) items. PC mice and trackpads typically have left and right mouse buttons. Mac OS X can use many USB mice and trackballs. Apple’s Magic Mouse and Magic Trackpad use finger gestures. Magic Prefs offers more Mac “Magic” + Trackpad configuration options.

Mac Right Click options:

  • Use mouse or trackball right click
  • While pressing Control key, Click (or tap track pad), then release Control key.
  • On a Trackpad, can right-click with two fingers or configure a right-click area.

Search – Handouts

Handouts have (future revamp planned)

Mac search finds Handout – not displayed PC search finds and shows Handout

Screen layout

Many items inside PC window located on Mac Menu Bar on top of screen: File, Guides, Tools, Layouts, Help

File

This Mac menu does not follow historic Mac conventions – recommend quick click to display menu (may take seconds to display), then can right OR left click on menu items.

Mac (Top of Screen) PC (inside Logos Window)
Mac has Close (CMD-W shortcut) and Close Tab PC has Handout
Mac Translucent Menu Bar preference enabled

 Link to Composite File screen image with on PC (top) and Mac (bottom)
Logos User Voice suggestion => Improve Menu Responsiveness

Guides

This Mac menu does not follow historic Mac conventions – recommend quick click to display menu (may take seconds to display), then can right OR left click on menu items.

Mac (Top of Screen) PC (inside Logos Window)

 Link to composite Guides screen image with on PC (top) and Mac (bottom)
Logos User Voice suggestion => Improve Menu Responsiveness

Layouts

This Mac menu does not follow historic Mac conventions – recommend quick click to display menu (may take seconds to display), then can right OR left click on menu items.

Mac (Top of Screen) PC (inside Logos Window)
Layout examples (lower left) => rearrange open items

 Link to composite Guides screen image with on PC (top) and Mac (bottom) (lacks 4.2a Sentence Diagram addition on Mac)
Logos User Voice suggestion => Improve Menu Responsiveness



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